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Posted in Year six england junior or primary school p.e. kit on 2002-11-03 02:56:59

I attended a couple of schools during primary/Prep age. I remember when younger at a mixed school we all had to strip down to just our underpants for PE, dance and 'music & movement'. Some of the girls changed into leotards. We all changed in the classroom and then walked in single file to the hall. From about age 10 (now Y6) the boys had to get changed in the cloakroom which was really just a couple of benches and pegs in an alcove in the corridor. We were then allowed to wear shorts but if we did we had to take our pants off. At that age my teachers were all ladies. I can't remember being embarassed about getting undressed or doing PE in my underwear at that time.

Outside games were the smae as for PE except the girls always wore leotards and we wore shorts right from the start. I can just about remeber being outside barefoot and without a shirt but think most of the time we had T-shirts and plimsolls.

Swimming at school was done with nothing on. Both girls and boys up until I think about 8 or 9 from then the swimming was either all boys or all girs. We stayed nude butthe girls had costumes and caps. Stayed like that the rest of the time I was at school even though I moved to a different Prep and Senior School.

When we had PE/Games or Swimming other classes went at the same time so there would be about 40-50 of us I suppose.

========== In Reply To ========== i am surprised some year 6 boys have to do pe in their underpants as some have voted dont be afraid to tell us in the talk about it sessions or email but please be honest or poll gets silly who does pe in shorts but no top tell us about that all boys in our class have to wear shorts and tshirt for pe but we can choose our swim wear

Posted in Have You Forgoten Your P.E. Kit on 2002-11-03 02:39:18

When I was at school forgotten kit resulted in you doing PE or Games without whatever it was you had forgotten or, often worse, being issued with kit from the lost property box. That stuff was always too big or too small and probably never fitted anyone! There was never th option of sitting out. Lads in their underwaer or outside without a shirt was not uncommon. Those excused with a medical note also had to get changed and they helped officiate or had to walk around the pitches. Detentions were issued or for the more regular culprits the slipper or cane was used. Games masters then seemed to be of a breed who thrived on sadism towards us! Would not have even thought of telling your parents.

Never heard of making someone go barefoot as a punishment. We always did PE barefoot and sometimes some outdoor activities the same but that was not a punishment.

========== In Reply To ========== I go to a mixed comp in South Wales. Our school runs a policy of if you forgett your kit then you either borrow from a friend or from the schools "Lucky Dip". However u ussually end up doing it barefoot if indoors. Well 1 day i didn't bring my kit (for a dare, i had to forget it 3 times in a week) and after borrowing a t shirt & shorts off a friend i was made to do the whole leson barefoot, but at the end of the lesson my teacher, said that i had to go barefoot for the rest of the YEAR! only inside. This happened in the begining of the school year this year. I don't know wether to tell my parents or not. Could other people please send me thier experiances and advice to boyracer54@hotmail.com Thank you

Posted in school trousers uk boys on 2002-11-03 02:25:08

I tend to agree with you that shorts are usually preferable to longs a they are more comfortable, healthier etc. (also prefered by most of the girls!) but as a British schoolboy through the 70's into the early 80's with experience of wearing shorts year round I don't hold much with your comment about adversity and discomfort. It could at times be a bit nippy in a cold wind but no more than the girls put up with in their skirts/dresses. I suppose it did make us a bit tougher but not in the way your implying.

I now work in an independent boarding school and although the older boys in my current school don't have to wear shorts in the winter they are often out in all weathers in their football/rugby kits. Not just in school time but also in their free time. That by choice. Many boys in recent years seem to have taken more towards wearing shorts as casual wear if not to school.

Boys at 'my' school wear shorts year round up to 13/14, Year 8 in the UK and thereafter have the option of shorts in the Summer months. The boys in the Prep wear regular greys whereas the older boys can opt for a sand/khaki colour which are not quite so formal. They must wear trousers for formal days and visits though. I have noticed this year that the boys at the middle school near one of my relatives seem to have voted for the comfort thing as quite a few were wearing shorts to school; think it has always been an option but this yerar it was the fashion!

I think that most boys would prefer to wear shorts if they could get over the initial reluctance to be the first/only one. They are more comfortable, allow more movement, look smarter especially when otherwise outgrowing trousers and the hem starts creeping up around your ankles, are not as cold as some think most heat is lost through the head and body.

From an 'adult' viewpoint there is also the point that they are cheaper, tend to last a bit longer and are more practical. In the school the laundry prefer shorts because they are easier and faster to launder! Another advantage is that they enable the boys to be boys ie less hesitation about clambering around for fear of tearing their trousers and alsoalthough only a spin off they do slow down the idea that the boys have to instantly become minature adults and let them enjoy their childhood more. Not that I am advocating that shorts are or should be used to keep boys as little boys or juvenile but theyare an ideal bit of clothing. The cjoice should be up to each individual though.

========== In Reply To ========== I am an American parent.

Shorts makes a lot of sense for school boys, especially boys 16 and under. There are no knees on shorts to get holes from play, and sudden growth spurts don't make shorts legs too short! So, shorts last longer and cost parents less, which, of course, is the last thing a kid would ever think about!

The other thing I like is the British attitude about boys having to wear shorts in cold weather: learn to handle adversity and discomfort!

Posted in Gray vs. Grey on 2002-11-03 01:53:30

That is quite interesting. I thought that all Americans used 'gray' and did not invert 'er'.

========== In Reply To ========== I'm from Michigan, and I was taught to spell the color "grey," not "gray." It's not an American spelling, but rather certain regions in America spell the word "gray."

Perhaps my learning to spell the word "grey" has to do with our proximity to Canada. For example, in my town, we always spell "theatre" not "theater," and "centre" is basically interchangeable with "center." Interestingly, however, this doesn't work with all -re/-er differences (I've never seen the spelling "metre" on a public sign, for example).

Again, growing up across the river from Canada, spelling differences like neighbor/neighbour, labor/labour, behavior/behaviour don't bother me or my friends--being exposed so frequently to both, they just seem like alternate spellings. Actually, I tend to use UK spellings for some words (especially behaviour and labour) but not for others (I never use the spelling "colour")--odd.

Posted in PE Uniform on 2002-06-09 21:28:12

I would not say my school is tough. We do have high expectations and standards though. There are few rules and all are strictly kept to by all of the staff. Most of the rules are little more than common sense.

Some of the boys wear swim shorts for out of school swims but swimming trunks are required in school time and for galas etc therefore taht is what most wear all the time they are in the pool.

I agree that those not participating should be encouraged to join in in some way even if some ailment prevents full participation. Part of the reasoning why we expect everyone to change and turn out for all pe, games and swimming lessons. Another reason is that it prevents the option of skiving off and promotes the ethos that they are all part of one 'team/group'.

========== In Reply To ========== Some interesting points, although I think your school seems quite tough compared to quite a lot today! I think a lot of UK schools will allow boys to swim in swim shorts or trunks. As we all know, swimming trunks are far more suitable for swimming I feel this should therefore be insisted upon. I also think in a lot of schools children do sit around and watch, if they haven't got their kit and as I have said before, this shouldn't be allowed.