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Posted in Kneeling before God (Roman catholics) on 2011-08-02 17:10:34

Thank you Eduard (and may Our Lord bless you) . I too would like to continue this conversation privately as well and will write to you later today.

As to your question about venerating the Cross. The Good Friday liturgy requires us to kneel in adoration of the Cross. Normally in England (at least at the more traditional churches my family goes to) it is called creeping to the Cross and everyone who is fit enough is expected to go to the Communion rail to venerate the Cross walking on their knees. This is the least one can do as public mortification on the day to commemorate Jesus' agony and death for our sins, in my opinion.

Posted in Confession and Communion (for Catholics) on 2011-08-02 14:38:24

As the creator of this poll I apologise fro not replying before. I am absolutely not judging. It is sinful of itself to judge. Only God judges and only you, the receiver of Holy Communion, know. Nuns in the 50s taught many curious things - some (not all) of what they taught was wrong or irrlelvant. But it si still a central doctrine of Catholic faith that Holy Communion needs to be treated with HUGE respect and one aspect of this respect is that you must have a clean soul to receive Our Lord. That means confession of any mortal sin. There really isn;t any getting round that but of course it is not about individuals judging.

I should add that my father when (no so long ago) I was a child, did periodically talk to us individually before Mass about our dispositions, our examinations of conscience and confession. I am glad he did that.

Posted in Sunday dress code for church (boys and men only) on 2011-08-02 14:26:22

Malcham, a slightly tangential point but granted that your son quite rightly goes to Mass and a study group, OI wondered if you made sure he goes to confession regularly, and properly dressed, I ask because in my family my father has had problems recently with my 16 year old brother trying to get of regular confession and it causes some problems. Thanks, Mark.

Posted in Kneeling before God (Roman catholics) on 2011-08-02 14:14:36

Thank you for replying Eduard. I agree with you (and with Ghandi!). I truly wish that we could approach the Blessed Sacrament - the most important Thing in our lives - whether to adore or to receive, entirely on our knees, just as we rightly approach the Cross on Good Friday on our knees. I am interested in what you mean by saying that you "lean on [your [face"in front of the Blessed Sacrament and wonder f you explain a bit perhaps. For my part when the Blessed Sacrament is exposed for adoration. For my part I kneel on the bare stone (the church where I normally Adore quite rightly in my opinion does not have kneelers)and bow my head low so that my forehead is pushed into the top of the pew in front. This is the nearest I can get to being prostrate which like you I wish I could be.

I am a strong believer in mortification during penitential prayer. I also stretch out my arms when saying penitential prayers sometimes. My father expected us to do more than simply kneel when penitence was required (whether saying one's penance after confession, saying penitential prayers, or praying on days of special penance such as Fridays or in Lent) - we knelt on bare stone on bare knees; with arms outstretched, on stones; or prostrate. And the need to pray on bare knees was one of the reasons why we rightly wore shorts at home until 18. As a young adult at university I put on shorts for some prayers and as my room at uni. is carpeted I have a piece of hard wood on which to kneel. At home all men wear shorts for penitential acts or prayers.

This conversation has made me thing about kneeling to say grace before and after meals when at home at least. What do others do?

Posted in Kneeling before God (Roman catholics) on 2011-07-31 17:21:55

I meant to say a little more. Before posting my last message.

I believe that what one does outwardly should be a symbol of what one believes inwardly. The act of kneeling is a specific expression of one's submission to God; one's humility before God; one's adoration of God; one's sorrow for offending God. That is why when I adore the Blessed Sacrament I remain on my knees throughout.

I had two other points.

If I am doing penance or need to humble myself before God I think it is right to kneel in penance: with bare knees on stone or wood; with small pebbles or rice under my knees or kneeling on my hands. My Father has a devotion to and taught my brothers and me about Blessed Matt Talbot, who had a discreet slit cut into the knees of his trousers so that without fuss he could mortify himself by kneeling on his bare knees.

Secondly, I think that it is right to show outward respect and honour from a son to his father by such things as obedience. If I sinned against that commandment by disrespect or disobedience then kneeling in humility before him was one way of atoning for that.