User: michael7485

we both have called each false christian.He called me a false prophet. This is why i dont like him. But most of all he said i blashemphing the Holy Ghost its on a poll i delete. This is a unforgive sin. And in my believes i Didnt. This i did maybe foolish.I used the name of Jesus to kick him out.He reminds me of the devil. You i like lot better they valar.You have said things i disagree with. At this point in time i dont rememeber what.But you have never made my angry or mad. Now i agree with you about life is more than books.Life is life outside of books.Book can record history of life. The bible is a book i believe is fact. Explainly about Jesus.You read my messages to valar.I've quote bible verse on 500 people at one time seeing Jesus after death (I cor 15). Paul Saul was changed By seeing Jesus Acts 8. Valar says heresay.Well if the courtroom was 2000 years ago.I would ask the 500 people come and tell did see Jesus here as Paul says. Paul's changed he wasnt the only one to heard a voice his buddys heard the voice. I asking you to read the case for christ as Lee.And after the book do your Case for Christ. Find out who the people was who wrote the book.Dont take just my studies,valar's,or any one man or woman's studies.Lee the man who wrote gives over 100 scholars or very wise men.Much wiser then me.

you right about one thing i never change my mind on the bible.Unless i trust the person who gives me facts of the bible. You Valar i Dont trust and dont like you.You are the one calling me started this false prophet and christian. You say i judged you i did do that i did judge but i hate to tell this you Judge as well.

Quote: You are right we cant change each other minds.

Because you've proven yourself to be closed-minded, which is something Yeshua didn't like.

Quote: Have you ever read the Case for Christ.Valar dont like this book.I do.Valar it's a bias book.Read this book.It some give facts as madlock or news reporter wood.

rolls eyes If Zeus read it, he'd come to the same conclusions as I did.

Quote: Jesus forfill over 100 prophies. Read the old testment to Jesus life.See Jesus forfilled over a 100 Virgin mary,Born in a manager,a seed of David,dying on a cross,beating,pulling out his hair and more. You said virgin dont mean not having sex but young woman. But Mary may have been a virgin as we know it.Mary was about only 14 years old when she had Jesus.She wasnt married at the time she was pragent with Jesus In those days it was shameful to not be married and with child.With in reason Mary was a virgin Virgin.

Proof?

Quote: It give other book to study.and more this a good book not the good book as the bible. read the listing in the back of the book on other books and authors.

Opinion.

Quote: All I got is my life.I would really die for my believes.My hereos are cassie barnerd(colambia high school)(not spelled right) Yes i do believe in the story. I hope to be like her one day. To stand up say i Believe in God. I met a few friends Cassie's.Here in West Virginia then say the story is true. And few people i trust like Michael W.Smith and Steven Curtis Chapman. Cassie's song was Friends of Michael.That was sung by Steven. Oh good grief! Don't tell me you believe in that urban legend!

The witnesses who survived tell an entirely different story, which was given in an official police report. She wasn't killed because she said "yes" because she believed in God. This rumor was spread in order to take advantage of fear and convert people. Those persons, in reality, are some of THE most un-Godly and un-Christ-like people ever.

Quote: Valar has his studies. Scholar Knowledge (valar)verse(passion and knowledge of the bible).

I have a great deal of passion which I proved as well as an extensive knowledge of the Bible.

Quote: Mr valar You can never change me.

(I know the Bible,God and Jesus is truth).I am close to your lies

"The mind that is closed is closed forever to the Truth"

Quote: You will lose on this.You will never win on change my thinking on God,the bible,Jesus,and you never get me to think i am Non-christian.

I will ask anyone reading this: HOW MANY TIMES DID I SAY I WAS NOT ATTEMPTING TO MAKE HIM A NON-CHRISTIAN?

Michael: Learn to read please.

Quote: I am a Christian.

I proved otherwise. In addition, your words and behavior also betrays your claim.

Quote: If i defend the bible.I will use 90 to 100% THE BIBLE.MAYBE THIS IS NOT LOGICAL TO YOU BUT TO ME IT'S LOGICAL.

Then you are not logical and therefore, will never be correct. You possess incorrect information and choose to believe in a lie instead of the facts that I gave.

"Fanaticalism can only lead to hate and dispair. Why be a fanatic when the Middle Path is not only safer but is preached by all religions? It might be harder, but good comes from what is hard, and evil from what is easy."

You are right we cant change each other minds.Have you ever read the Case for Christ.Valar dont like this book.I do.Valar it's a bias book.Read this book.It some give facts as madlock or news reporter wood.One Luke was picky on little facts of his book. Jesus forfill over 100 prophies.It give other book to study.and more this a good book not the good book as the bible. Valar has his studies and scholar. All I got is my life.I would really die for my believes.My hereos are cassie barnerd(colambia high school)(not spelled right),rich mullins(the man who wrote Awesome God,few men and women around i know that know God has used to help up in prayers and a talking to me with truth. This all i got to try to change you. Valar has his studies. Scholar Knowledge (valar)verse(passion and knowledge of the bible). Mr valar You can never change me. I can never change you. I will say i am defeat on trying to change you. Can you say I am defeated on trying to change me. You will lose on this.You will never win on change my thinking on God,the bible,Jesus,and you never get me to think i am Non-christian. I am a Christian. If i defend the bible.I will use 90 to 100% THE BIBLE.MAYBE THIS IS NOT LOGICAL TO YOU BUT TO ME IT'S LOGICAL.

========== In Reply To ========== Quote: I say bible is 100% true with my study,

I dont trust scholarly sources or clergy sources only I trust my life to God and his Son Jesus.I trust the bible is 100% true and it's God's word if it came out of God's mouth.I know for a fact God dont lie.Men are liers.In pulpit or out of the pulpit.Scholary studies can be biased study.You to me are so against God and the bible.your god is scholarly study.Not Jesus,Jehovah or yeshua.

Biased study with the clergy.

True study comes from scholarly sources and includes the historical, linguistical, and philosophical aspects of the times and places.

Quote: ,life and relateship with my God and savior Jesus Christ. i gave a testamony.Of how my God changed my life.

Hearsay and no proof.

Quote: You say bible half truth and half heresay or false.

Once again I am falsely accused. Why don't you pay attention to what is posted for once? I said YOU use hearsay as a part of your "arguments."

I said that the Bible has been mistranslated throughout the years and has some forged passages.

Quote: ok!here's my point is who do you say Jesus is Christ is.

In my opinion, he claimed to the the chosen Messiah and a son of God.

Quote: Who do you say he is.

You just asked that. In addition, USE QUESTION MARKS!

Quote: Now i dont want other people's thinking no scholors or teachers.But your's and your's along.

According to scholarly study, I just gave it.

Quote: Jesus ask Peter who do you say I am.Peter's answer you are the Son of God,the Christ.and Jesus says you are right in saying so.

Circular reasoning and hearsay. Using the Bible to prove the Bible true is false logic and shows your bias, your ignorance, and your arrogance.

Quote: Listen to Jesus's question who do you say that I am.

You are a false Christian who has proved my statement many, many times.

Quote: It really dont matter what i say he is to you.And what you say he is to me.This ends my debate. God wins the debate.Not you or me.But God and God alone.

Prove God exists. Prove God doesn't exist. Both cannot be done. Therefore, you BELIEVE God won but you can never prove it.

In addition, I have proved that I am right and you are wrong tens of times.

Your arguments are illogical, you have no solid evidence, you have no scholarly training, and you haven't presented your material in a professional manner. If, in this third time that you've stated that you are done, you are truly done, you will have lost the debate and I have won it.

This means:

1. I am right about the Bible wrong
2. I am right about Yeshua wrong
3. I am right about God wrong
4. I am right about Paul wrong
5. I am right about you wrong Mr valar gets an f in life. I never will lose in the name of Jesus. I will never ever lose victory in Jesus. Are ready to admil defeat.

Think REALLY carefully. Are you ready to admit defeat now?

to all people not just Valar/Re: i say this you say that

this message isnt just for valar it's for all to read.Valar,Zeus or anybody that reads this.what do you say Jesus is to you.Jesus asked Peter what did he think. Peter's mouth always had a problem his foot was in it.but Jesus ask him anyway ========= In Reply To ========== I say bible is 100% true with my study,life and relateship with my God and savior Jesus Christ. i gave a testamony.Of how my God changed my life. You say bible half truth and half heresay or false. ok!here's my point is who do you say Jesus is Christ is.Who do you say he is.Now i dont want other people's thinking no scholors or teachers.But your's and your's along. Jesus ask Peter who do you say I am.Peter's answer you are the Son of God,the Christ.and Jesus says you are right in saying so. Listen to Jesus's question who do you say that I am.It really dont matter what i say he is to you.And what you say he is to me.This ends my debate. God wins the debate.Not you or me.But God and God alone.