User: Meri

Diane, Are you still around? If so, and if you still have an interest in this subject, I would like to talk to you some more about it.

Meri

What a cruel, sadistic thing to do... I love it! Could you please tell us more about this practice? How old is your son? What kind of diuretic do you use? Do you punish him when he comes home from school with wet pants? Is this something you do just out of general meanness, or do you get turned on at the thought of him squirming in discomfort and humiliating himself in front of his classmates?

Finally, is there anyone else reading this that indulges in similar activities with their sons and daughters, or with husbands, wives, etc.? If so, please reply and give us the details!

Meri

========== In Reply To ========== I slip my son diuretics sometimes so that he needs to urinate urgently at school. Sometimes he can hold on until break, but quite often he wets himself in the lesson.

Jennie (jcoldstream@excite.com)

Tammy,

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to locate this case and for posting it here. In response to your questions, I do not think these girls went too far... the boy deserved what he got! As far as I am concened, those girls don't deserve a prison sentence, they deserve a medal! What they did to this rapist was horrible indeed, but anyone who thinks he didn't deserve it should re-read the part of the story describing what he did to this poor little girl... Raping and torturing a child this way was much worse than the treatment the boy recieved. I can think of no punishment that would have been bad enough for such a crime, but the girls certainly did the best job they could! It is just a shame that the boy's punishment wasn't videotaped, so it could be shown to anyone who would even consider raping a child. I agree with you that the boy wasn't too young to be treated this way. If he was old enough to do this horrible crime, then he was old enough to be punished for it. Going easy on a rapist because of his age is like giving boys a licence to rape and torture as they please! The failure of society to punish boys for this sort of thing only encourages others to do the same... That is one of the reasons that more and more teenage boys are performing this sort of crime. I just heard a report of two teenage boys near Denver raping and brutalizing a twelve year old girl. They will probably get off with probation because of their age. But what about their victim? What concern did they show her because of her age? If rapists, regardless of their age, are not given the punishment they deserve, there will be more and more of this sort of thing. What a shame that these two boys couldn't be handed over to Stacey and Emilie! Now THAT would send a message to young rapists that such crimes are not acceptable... Thanks again for posting this account.

Meri

========== In Reply To ========== Hi Meri

It took me a while to find it again, but here is the case involving the use of rats on a rapist.

I would like to know if you think these girls went too far, or if they boy deserved what happened to him? Do you think he is too young to have received such a punishment? I don't!

Tammy

TEENAGE GIRLS SENTENCED TO FIVE YEARS FOR ATTACK! Two 16-year-old girls have been sentenced to five years in prison after they tortured and mutilated a 13-year-old boy suspected of raping a little girl. The two girls, Stacey Borman and Emilie Moore, were both cheerleaders and part-time models in this affluent middle class suburb. The town is shocked by the girls actions, but also by the events leading up to them. The boy, Robert Connor, had been charged for raping and torturing Samantha Borman, the five-year-old sister of Stacey Borman. He had tortured the girl with cigarettes held to her vagina, and had broken several of her fingers. He had raped her repeatedly, both vaginally and $%!@. The girl needed more than 50 stitches to her vagina and anus, and spent over two weeks in hospital. The boy had also set the family's cat on fire in front of the little girl. The boy, who had a history of molesting little girls including an infant, was arrested, but charges were dropped due to improper arrest procedures. The community was outraged, but no one more so than Stacey. She and Emilie Moore concocted revenge. They lured the boy to an abandoned factory, and forcing him to strip, tied him sitting on the floor with his back to a beam and his legs spread wide apart. They forced the boy to $%!@e with a piece of sandpaper wrapped around his $%!@, but when he could not ejaculate, the girls became angrier. They took turns kicking and stomping the boy's testicles, and tortured his $%!@ with a cigarette lighter and fingernail clippers. In a while, they caused the boy's $%!@ to become erect, and going to a large box they had brought along, Stacey removed a jar of honey. She applied the honey to the boy's $%!@, and then returning to the box, pulled out a cage. Inside the cage were two large rats which her father(an animal control officer) had caught and which Stacey had brought from their shelter. Stacey commented to the boy that she hadn't fed them in over a day, and that they were really hungry. She pushed the cage between the boy's legs and opened it. The rats began to eat the boy's $%!@ while the girls watched. After almost 20 minutes, the rats had eaten the boy's $%!@ off, and he had not been allowed to lose consciousness once. Emilie then picked up a brick from the floor, and dropped it repeatedly on the boy's testicles, crushing them. The girls then left and called an ambulance for the boy. The girls were later arrested and charged, and have been sentenced to five years without parole. The judge felt the boy had suffered enough and dropped any charges against him providing he get counseling. Women's groups are outraged at the sentencing, but an appeal has been turned down.

When asked if she regretted her actions, Stacey replied. "Yes and no. I regret that . . . boy, raped my sister, cause if he hadn't, none of this would have happened! I wouldn't be in jail, and my sister would still be a happy little kid!"(crying)

She was asked why she did it. "Because of what he did to my baby sister! Is she going to grow up normal now? This boy refused to get help, and has been hurting little girls for years. He even killed an 8 year old girls dog while forcing her to watch! I wanted to make sure he could never rape again, and I think the rats took care of that! He's not dead, maybe he can lead a more normal life now."

She was then asked if she felt sorry for the boy. "No! I think he deserved it! That wasn't the first time he had hurt little girls that way! He was even caught fooling around with a baby girl one time, and nobody did anything about it! When I was watching the rats eat the boy's wiener, I was glad! I think any boy who rapes little girls should have his wiener cut off! His nuts too! Maybe boys would learn not to rape and molest us girls anymore if those boys that did rape got their dinks cut off! I don't care what the judge says. I think he deserved it, and there are a lot of women who agree with me! Is what I did worse than what he did to my little sister? I think he deserved it!" It has been six months since the trial and the boy has not yet sought therapy. An order from the court may occur, but is unlikely.

steelesabers,

I hate to be the one to break this news to you, but more than half of the world's population manages just fine to pee without a $%!@! A rapist who has had his weiner removed could manage just fine, he would just have to learn to sit down first...

Meri

========== In Reply To ========== wait a second if the gy's $%!@ is cut off then how will he pee. he would die of his urinary bladder bursting

Tammy, As far as those two 11 year old rapists are concerned, I absolutely agree that they should have their weiners removed. Rapists, no matter what their age, should be subject to the same punishment. To do otherwise would be giving younger males a "license to rape." And if they are raping girls when they are 11 years old, what might they be capable of doing when they get older? If they are old enough to rape, they are old enough to be punished for their crime! Of course they should be punished as severely as possible before their weiners are removed, whether the offending organs are removed by cutting, as you mention, or by slowly burning them off, which I would prefer... My one concern about taking too much time to punish them first is that there might be some kind of legal action that could be taken to prevent them from loosing their little weiners. By all means torture them as severely as possible, but don't take too long doing it before actually removing the offending organs. The sooner those weiners are removed, the sooner women will be a little bit safer. If those testicles are left intact, there would be plenty of time for additional punishment once they have recovered from their "weiner-ectomy." While some proponents of castration etc. propose this as an alternative to incarceration, I do not agree with this view. 5 to 10 years of prison time following the removal of their little weiners would allow time and opportunity for additional punishment, concentrating on, but not limited to, those sensitive testicles. This practice would further increase the deterant effect of their punishment. I have a few other novel ideas regarding this subject that I can post if you would like to hear them...

Meri ========== In Reply To ==========

There are at least three good reasons to remove a rapist's $%!@ and/or testicles. The first reason is prevention. Any male who has raped once will rape again, unless his ability to do so is removed. This is all the more true of younger rapists. If a boy of 12 or 13 rapes a girl and gets away with it, what vile acts would he be capable of when he is older?

I agree Meri. I think that any man/boy who rapes should receive the same punishment.

The second reason is to deter other would-be rapists. A male, whatever his age, is more likely to think twice about performing rape if he knows that he will loose his $%!@ and/or testicles. Teenage boys are not known for thinking through the results of their actions. That is why punishment for rape should be as painful and as public as possible... There is no other way of getting through to them.

Absolutely! If other boys don't consider the ramifications of their violent actions, than perhaps watching a similar aged boy getting his weiner cut off would desuade them.

The third reason for severe punishment is to help the rape victim recover from the trauma she has suffered. Seeing her attacker properly punished for his crime, or, better yet, participating in his punishment, would be a big help in finding some closure to the torment she has suffered. This, too, would be the case regardless of the age of the rapist.

This is one of the most important reasons for doing this.

You ask if the victim should be permitted to participate in the punishment of her attacker to any extent she wishes... The answer to that is a resounding yes! As far as what age the female victim should be before being permitted to participate, I suppose that would vary some. In general, I would say that any girl aged twelve or more should be able to deal with the situation. Depending on their level of maturity, some younger girls might be able to participate, while some over that age might not be able to handle it. This would have to be assessed on a case by case basis. It would be a good idea for younger victims to be accompanied by their mother, aunt, older sister, or other suitable female relative, both for moral support, and to help with the punishment.

I think that if the girl is too young to physically participate, than she should be assisted by her mother, sister, aunt or other woman. At the very least, the girl should be allowed to view the punishment from a close proximity.

There is considerable difference of opinion concerning whether removing the testicles, the $%!@, or both would be the best punishment for rape. As satisfying as it might be to slowly crush a rapists testicles, I still believe that the most severe punishment would be to remove the $%!@, as painfully as possible, but to leave the rapist's testicles intact. This would sentence the rapist to a lifetime of frustration, being unable to ever have sex again, or even find any relief through $%!@ion... This would be especially true with teenage boys, whose raging hormones would make this situation an agonizing torment. Besides which, their testicles would be availible for further torture, as necessary.

I agree! I maintain that removing the weiner(I use this word as I don't think it will be censored) is the best and most suitable punishment. As you say, he cannot seek sexual gratification ever again. As well, like you said, he still has his testicles available for further punishment.

It is an unfortunate fact that rapists, as well as their victims, seem to be getting younger and younger. There was a case recently where a 12 year old boy raped and sodomised a 10 year old girl! Unbeliveable, but sadly true. This trend MUST be stopped, and swift and severe punishment for rapists, regardless of their age, is the only answer.

I know what you mean. I remember a case near where I live about 5 years ago, where two boys aged 11 raped a 6 year old girl. What do you think would be a suitable punishment for these young boys? Do you feel as I do that they would deserve to have their weiners cut off? Should they be punished beforehand?

Tammy