User: Maxifer

dressing boys as girls

id like to say that this whole subject is quite sexist. its teaching males to become "proper" and "well-behaved" like girls. thats simply not true. girls can be just as disobiedient and actually wear mens clothes (not cloths everyone) on an everyday basis w/o the fear that boys have of being hassled. it is part of everyday life for a girl. Boys, however have yet to experience such a fashion change lately. Except of course for you who punish boys with womens clothing. By punishing him and teaching others around him that it is bad to wear girlie clothing and it is a form of punishment just furthers the fact that men can not wear girlie clothing w/o fear. Those who notice mock him, even if they are envious, they are quite sure that they do not want the same treatment and therefore never try. That leads to ridicule more so when people are taught that it is bad by forms of petticoating. sorry if any of that didnt make sense or ran together, i just am trying to illustrate a point. But of course i must say that this is on a position that has never been petticoated. but has never been interested is another story....

i am not saying that womens clothing should not be available to men, indeed mens clothing is available to women. and to try and have a child that is tolerant of both sexes and nonbias to opinions is wanted in most parents eyes. but pettycoating is not the answer. you say spanking is sadistic, and it very well is, but is pettycoating not? have you read "Brave new World"? if you have not you should. it has lots of interesting conditioning topics. Pettycoating not being one of them, let me explain. If you 'train' one to be ok with something such as (in book) sex at a young age, they become familiar and ok with it. This practice will not only affect the boy, but if he is lucky enough to reccouperate from the situation and find a mate, and have kids, he will, as the poll suggests, pass the trait on to him/them. also, if you intend to teach a person a trait by form of punishment, the punishment should no doubt fit the crime: throwing food=it is taken from you for a certain period of time (# of meals). yelling and screaming in a public place= you are taken from said place and unable to talk to friend for time via phone, mail, etc. (just some examples). However, in the form of pettycoating it is as follows: acting out="dress up". yelling="dress up" not eating vegetables=you guessed it, "dress up", etc. I may have this view due to the fact that i was not pettycoated, and you have your view because you were and must now defend your beliefs or w/e. Im saying it is wrong but really would not have had a problem with it...especially if i had a sister. but i dont and do have a problem with it because of its use other than needed. loserama33@yahoo is always willing for an online debate via email or msn messenger. (same for both)

although i believe that the point is to have them remember it and to leave an impact, i too find it quite sadistic, read in the 1st and 2nd grade post to see more.

It may not be considered child abuse, but it is abuse in the fact that it is wrongful and unwanted treatment, or in some cases physical maltreatment. The fact of the matter is, they are practically conditioning you into behaving like a girl. This gives you a feel for it and therefore are willing to go further. This can lead to future gender issues, note the CAN. Also, this is a prime case of nature vs. nurture in favor of nurture for developing gay men. Petticoating is indeed within some peoples fantasies, but if it is not wanted it shouldnt be enforced. Also, it is wrong that women most commonly do this considering it is degrading to them as well. for instance, "why is ur son dressed as a girl?" answer: "im punishing him by making him feel like a girl" whilst know Petticoating has all the ingredients of a straightforward politically incorrect form of sexuality. It considers women's clothing and women's traditional occupations as inferior and humiliating; reinforcing undesirable stereotypes by characterising females as submissive, passive, helpless and subservient. Is that right? of course not. it is making a mockery of women being enforced by women. should your sexuality be decided by your mother/father due to your misbehaving? no, if s/he wishes to discipline you indefinately, find a way that wont comprimise the youngster in question's future but still get the point across. I can say that apparently it has positive enhancements to the attitude, but can have a disasterous outcome. Like what? well, he may not be able to find a wife willing to cope with his problems that he cant help because he was, in a way, conditioned into it. Thats a possibility that could lead to shame and ultimately reclusion from society itself. thats not the simplest thing nor the worst case thing that could happen but it could. ne way... if you really want to argue im game for a debate.