Is Bush a complete idiot?

The more I try to visualize that scenario the better I like it.

ENRON – WHAT’S GOING ON? Do you want an 60-second rendition of just what all this Enron stuff is all about?

OK .. here you go.

Enron was the nation’s seventh largest corporation in terms of revenue. Enron would buy natural gas and electrical energy from producers and re-sell those commodities to distributors and consumers. Enron was apparently cooking the book. Enron was heavily in debt, but the debt was hidden in various partnerships. Eventually the house of cards caved in and Enron tanked. Many Enron employees and investors literally lost most of their life savings.

Enron’s connection to President Bush? The corporation and it’s top official contributed heavily to Bush’s various political campaigns. Also – when the financial cave in began at Enron some Enron officials had meetings with Bush Administration officials seeking help.

That’s just about it. This is the synopsis for the “scandal” that many in our wonderful news media say could be “as big as Whitewater.”

So, you want to compare Bush/Enron with Clinton/Madison Guaranty and the Whitewater scandal? Fine! Let’s go for it. For starters:

Can you show me any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that George W. Bush or anyone working for George W. Bush did anything to help Enron hide its financial misdeeds?

Can you name one Bush family member who received money from Enron for professional services – as an attorney, for instance?

Can you show any loans to George W. Bush or any of his family members from Enron or from any of Enron’s principals?

Can you show that George W. Bush invested in Enron and that that investment was subsequently protected by Enron officials when the financial picture started to fall apart. Can you provide me with any evidence that any administration official, from Bush’s years as Governor of Texas or since he became president, has taken any action whatsoever to prevent, stall or impede an investigation by any government regulatory agency, either state or federal, into the financial affairs of Enron?

Can you provide any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, of any sexual relations between George W. Bush and any officer or the wife of any officer of Enron?

Can you produce evidence that either Enron or any Enron official ever made payments on any promissory obligation of George W. Bush or any member of his family?

Can you introduce any evidence that George W. Bush, or any member of his immediate family, ever participated in the preparation of any legal documents drawn for the sole purpose of defrauding the federal government?

Can you show that either George W. Bush or any member of his administration or his immediate family has lied, whether under oath or not, about any aspect of his relationship with Enron or any Enron officials?

Can you provide me the name of any Enron official who is presently serving time in jail for contempt of court for his or her refusal to answer questions under oath about the role of George W. Bush or any member of his family or administration in dealings with Enron?

Can you show me that any pertinent documents relating to Enron, which documents were once in the possession of George W. Bush, any member of his immediately family or any administration official has been destroyed, lost, shredded or otherwise disposed of?

Explain just why there is so much criticism of George W. Bush over the Enron debacle while Enron is being represented in Washington by Bill Clinton’s former attorney.

But, you say, Enron talked to Bush officials when they knew they were in trouble? So? Didn’t airline representatives talk to both Republican and Democratic officials in Washington when they found themselves in trouble? Didn’t Chrysler make a trip to Washington decades ago when it hit some rough roads? It’s pretty much standard practice for huge corporation to go to Washington when the going gets rough. Sometimes you see a bail-out as you did with the airlines and Chrysler. Sometimes the corporate officials learn that they are going to have to go it on their own.

Democrats and Clinton-lovers are just salivating on this one. They are trying to convince the myrmidons that Enron is Bush’s Whitewater. As you can see from the list above, this is a tough play to run. It doesn’t matter, though, because the vast majority of people in this country – including most Democratic voters – don’t have the intellectual curiosity to delve into the situation. They’ll believe what their favorite politician says – or what they hear from their favorite news anchors – and that will pretty much be it.

If there’s any fraud, criminal conduct or ethical violations here … show me the proof. I’ll be right there with you demanding appropriate action.

I believe the topic was "is Bush a complete idiot?" not "is Bush a crook?". That is another matter altogether and while I believe Bush is the dumbest president we've ever had and I also think he's too close to big oil, I also don't think he's done anything criminal as far as Enron is concerned.

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ENRON – WHAT’S GOING ON? Do you want an 60-second rendition of just what all this Enron stuff is all about?

OK .. here you go.

Enron was the nation’s seventh largest corporation in terms of revenue. Enron would buy natural gas and electrical energy from producers and re-sell those commodities to distributors and consumers. Enron was apparently cooking the book. Enron was heavily in debt, but the debt was hidden in various partnerships. Eventually the house of cards caved in and Enron tanked. Many Enron employees and investors literally lost most of their life savings.

Enron’s connection to President Bush? The corporation and it’s top official contributed heavily to Bush’s various political campaigns. Also – when the financial cave in began at Enron some Enron officials had meetings with Bush Administration officials seeking help.

That’s just about it. This is the synopsis for the “scandal” that many in our wonderful news media say could be “as big as Whitewater.”

So, you want to compare Bush/Enron with Clinton/Madison Guaranty and the Whitewater scandal? Fine! Let’s go for it. For starters:

Can you show me any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that George W. Bush or anyone working for George W. Bush did anything to help Enron hide its financial misdeeds?

Can you name one Bush family member who received money from Enron for professional services – as an attorney, for instance?

Can you show any loans to George W. Bush or any of his family members from Enron or from any of Enron’s principals?

Can you show that George W. Bush invested in Enron and that that investment was subsequently protected by Enron officials when the financial picture started to fall apart. Can you provide me with any evidence that any administration official, from Bush’s years as Governor of Texas or since he became president, has taken any action whatsoever to prevent, stall or impede an investigation by any government regulatory agency, either state or federal, into the financial affairs of Enron?

Can you provide any evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, of any sexual relations between George W. Bush and any officer or the wife of any officer of Enron?

Can you produce evidence that either Enron or any Enron official ever made payments on any promissory obligation of George W. Bush or any member of his family?

Can you introduce any evidence that George W. Bush, or any member of his immediate family, ever participated in the preparation of any legal documents drawn for the sole purpose of defrauding the federal government?

Can you show that either George W. Bush or any member of his administration or his immediate family has lied, whether under oath or not, about any aspect of his relationship with Enron or any Enron officials?

Can you provide me the name of any Enron official who is presently serving time in jail for contempt of court for his or her refusal to answer questions under oath about the role of George W. Bush or any member of his family or administration in dealings with Enron?

Can you show me that any pertinent documents relating to Enron, which documents were once in the possession of George W. Bush, any member of his immediately family or any administration official has been destroyed, lost, shredded or otherwise disposed of?

Explain just why there is so much criticism of George W. Bush over the Enron debacle while Enron is being represented in Washington by Bill Clinton’s former attorney.

But, you say, Enron talked to Bush officials when they knew they were in trouble? So? Didn’t airline representatives talk to both Republican and Democratic officials in Washington when they found themselves in trouble? Didn’t Chrysler make a trip to Washington decades ago when it hit some rough roads? It’s pretty much standard practice for huge corporation to go to Washington when the going gets rough. Sometimes you see a bail-out as you did with the airlines and Chrysler. Sometimes the corporate officials learn that they are going to have to go it on their own.

Democrats and Clinton-lovers are just salivating on this one. They are trying to convince the myrmidons that Enron is Bush’s Whitewater. As you can see from the list above, this is a tough play to run. It doesn’t matter, though, because the vast majority of people in this country – including most Democratic voters – don’t have the intellectual curiosity to delve into the situation. They’ll believe what their favorite politician says – or what they hear from their favorite news anchors – and that will pretty much be it.

If there’s any fraud, criminal conduct or ethical violations here … show me the proof. I’ll be right there with you demanding appropriate action.

========== In Reply To ========== I believe the topic was "is Bush a complete idiot?" not "is Bush a crook?". That is another matter altogether and while I believe Bush is the dumbest president we've ever had and I also think he's too close to big oil, I also don't think he's done anything criminal as far as Enron is concerned.

Yeah, I must admit that he's so dumb that he named Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice to top advisory positions, picked Cheney as his VP, has Al Qaeda and the Taliban on the run within a matter of months, gave the American people back some of their hard-earned money, and has seriously challenged the education establishment to prepare well-informed American citizens for the future. Geez, what an idiot!

So he appointed some very bright people into top positions, big deal!!, did he have any choice???. Powell should be president in my opinion although he's doing an excellent job where he is, as for Cheney he's a heart attack waiting to happen, but Bush on the other hand is thick as a brick. Have you ever heard him say something that hasn't been written for him???, he struggles, badly. Just a few quotes.

"They miscalculated me as a leader" Sept 13, 2000

"I regret that a private comment I made to the vice persidential candidate made it through to the public airways" Sept 5, 2000

"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions, I can't answer your question." Oct 4, 2000

Enough said.

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I agree that Powell would do an awesome job as president, but I think Bush does an awesome job too. Cheney is a great leader, and the whole Enron scandal actually started 5 years ago under Clinton. ========== In Reply To ========== So he appointed some very bright people into top positions, big deal!!, did he have any choice???. Powell should be president in my opinion although he's doing an excellent job where he is, as for Cheney he's a heart attack waiting to happen, but Bush on the other hand is thick as a brick. Have you ever heard him say something that hasn't been written for him???, he struggles, badly. Just a few quotes.

"They miscalculated me as a leader" Sept 13, 2000

"I regret that a private comment I made to the vice persidential candidate made it through to the public airways" Sept 5, 2000

"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions, I can't answer your question." Oct 4, 2000

Enough said.