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Is this wise to take away the name of God from our school teachings?

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Posted by DDH52 on 2008-05-28 18:52:32

I'm not sure of StarGateCode's meaning either, but I have a pretty good idea that it is a sarcastic slap at science by another blathering creationist who is totally clueless about physics and biological evolution.

Posted by totoro on 2008-05-30 03:38:54

In the great void left by the departure of the notorious Wisey, others take the place...great! now I won't get bored in the "religion" section. So if I look at the complexities of nature, I am to assume that a buncha people a few thousand years ago figured out the mysteries of the entire universe...that out of the billions of light years of space in the universe, this god that is spoken of actually gave these folks all of the answers...Ah...yeah...and I have some rainforest property to sell you in Death Valley ( I was trying to take the "high road" more in these debates-oh well).

Posted by StarGateCode on 2008-06-05 21:22:35

Do you believe, that pro evolution science believers and teachers as well, know everything? That they have all the answers for the origins of life in the universe? We know they don't. And that's why they are doing always lab experiments and studding their own theories to find better answers ...Let's put it easier this same question. Do you believe, that maybe they know a half of everything? Again ...They don't. But let's be helpful and admit that yes, they know a half of all the mysteries of life in the Universe.

Isn't this possible, fair and acceptable to admit that God is on the other half of knowledge that they don't know anything about yet?

The Darwinian account of evolution is imploding, and no amount of sarcasm or misinformation can save it. Those who hang their philosofical hopes on scientific naturalism are on defense mode. Let me share just three of the many problems unsolved by the theory of natural selection.

1- Random mutation, the heart of Darwin's theory, has been shown to be severely limited in evolving new functional genes. There is no known example of the formation of a new species.

2- The slow steps of evolution through selection cannot explain the irreducible complexity of the 40-piece rotary motor in the bacterial flagellum. If just one part of the motor is not in place, the motor won't work. No Darwinian apologist has an answer for this.

3- Neo Darwinists have yet to propose a solid theory for the beginning of life. Dr. Dean Kenyon, a professor of biology at San Francisco University, wrote the leading and accepted textbook on the biochemical origin of life. For years "Biochemical Predestination" was used in universities as the best text book on the origins of the first living cells. However, Kenyon finally abandoned his theory because he began to strongly doubt that amino acids, witch are protein's building blocks , could self-assemble without the assembly instructions that RNA and DNA provide. In the final analysis, there is no answer for the origin of DNA.

Over 150 years ago, Darwin said: "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed witch could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

Posted by StarGateCode on 2008-06-05 21:26:46

The Lonely Lion

Long, long time ago, a lonely lion by luck was made a living specie. He was made accidentally by nature, and ended up as what we call a mutant. Ugly and incomplete. Nothing resembling the majestic look of the “lion king” that we see in our days. Anyway, we cannot blame nature on that because there was no will or brains involved in this first evolution processed “creature”. Some how he got the nutrients to grow from the ground and start getting shape. One day a strong wind got him lose from the mother earth and he had to fight now to survive by himself. I don't know what happen back then but he found himself suddenly (like a miracle) also with a stomach and a complete digestive system with all those needed digestive chemicals. Lucky guy. He had also a perfect control on eliminating all the waste that was not absorbed by his organism, through... (You know, what we call the end of the intestine in a polite form.) He had only two legs and a third one still getting shape (nobody to blame) and was hungry. He found out also really fast that he was a carnivore now. He needed to find and eat animal flesh not grass, or condemn himself to extinction before no time. So in a slow and painful way he start moving his deformed body around. After some time he got lucky (happen easy in evolution theories). He just saw moving like him with trouble as well, what we can call the first gazelle (Another ugly mutant). Wow! Food he said. And that's it. He just gave nature a hard time eating what was a billion of years of luck, or by accident, or coincidence or what ever you feel like calling it this evolution theory. Who believe on these no sense theories “created” some kind of religion with doctrines or teachings, that require an incredible faith. Much, much, much more faith than believing in a Mighty Magic of The Universe with super powers. If you don't like to call Him God please don't refer to Him like “god” with a small “g” because it's an insult against Him, coming from a little grain of cosmic dust or energy made solid, (the arrogant you...) that doesn't understand anything about the universe and have been brain washed by also arrogant rebels, against The Source (for me they are inferior scientists) that are mentally blind as well. If... You are honest about your beliefs, not a joker (and I hope you are not because you are defying God) go to this site http://www.stargatecode.com and watch lots of videos showing that “superior scientists” can prove that “creation” is a fact and that the theory of evolution is just that. A theory.

Now a few comments about some postings here on my poll.

Inquisition never happened because people love for Jesus or God... The whole thing happened only because men ambition and desire for power and money. Rich Jew death Jew, as it's was well known in Portugal and Spain.

Hitler genocide happened mainly because he decided to help or accelerate the theory of evolution “natural selection” towards perfection.

Religion in schools? I'm the first one not to want religion in schools. That was going to be really bad for all students in any level to have so many religions fighting over each others for the rights to teach there. The same about the theory of evolution. It's a religion with doctrines imposed in our school system and supported by our taxes money. You need faith to believe on it. Take it away. It's build up in lies. The movement to remove the name of God as The Creator from our educational books or mentioned in school it's what worries me. How can you refuse to admit the reality of an “intelligent designer” that you witness everywhere around you? Big empires fell down in the past because they somehow ended up defying God and they paid the price. Read history and “understand” why those falls happened. God didn't make religion. Men did. God principle is that we love each others and Himself as supreme loving God above everything else. This applies to all religions. He was killed (the temporary mortal flesh not the divine) when He became Himself human to live among us so He could show us that we can (and must) win over sin living a sinless life like He Jesus did.

Posted by peteM1989 on 2008-06-08 12:23:31

'Do you believe, that pro evolution science believers and teachers as well, know everything? That they have all the answers for the origins of life in the universe? We know they don't. And that's why they are doing always lab experiments and studding their own theories to find better answers ...Let's put it easier this same question. Do you believe, that maybe they know a half of everything? Again ...They don't. But let's be helpful and admit that yes, they know a half of all the mysteries of life in the Universe.'

Quite right- we dont know everything, and we never will. But we can always try to find out new things.

'Isn't this possible, fair and acceptable to admit that God is on the other half of knowledge that they don't know anything about yet?'

Possibly, but until God reveals himself to me in person, I will assume there is no god.

'The Darwinian account of evolution is imploding, and no amount of sarcasm or misinformation can save it. Those who hang their philosofical hopes on scientific naturalism are on defense mode.'

Sorry, but that sentence doesn't have a single word of truth in it. The darwinian account of evolution remains the best scientific theory to explain the diversity of life.

'1- Random mutation, the heart of Darwin's theory, has been shown to be severely limited in evolving new functional genes. There is no known example of the formation of a new species.'

Wrong again- here's one example, there are many more out there: http://www.richarddawkins.net/article,2663,Lizards-make-adaptive-change,Stan-Freeman

Number 2: sorry, I don't know enough about this subject.

'3- Neo Darwinists have yet to propose a solid theory for the beginning of life.'

Darwinism has nothing to do with the beginning of life.

Please do some better research, and think before posting things you can't back up.

Pete