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Life sentence in jail/execution

Posted by Kameleon on 2008-03-15 08:27:17

I am 16. I have no problem at all, if a minor (teens less than 18) who commits murder, and is proven to be guilty without a shadow of a doupt, to be put in jail for 20 years, with the possibility of parole. BUT! If he has commited double or mass murder, LIFE SENTENCE! OR EXECUTION! WHY should he be jailed, and he gets to watch TV, play video games, and free meals, all from my hard earned taxes?!

In China, they execute criminals, and have the parents of the criminal pay for the bullit!

What I am trying to stress, is WHY, oh WHY is someone, jailed, and released, jailed, and released commiting the same crime, or MORE HEINOUS crimes, then be released again and again more than 60 times?! Carreer criminals can NOT be rehabilitated! He is LOST in his crime, thinking "OH, I can rob, rape, steal, kill, and I will be released from jail anyway....."

EXECUTE 'UM! Let his parents or next of kin pay for the bullit or the cost of the lethal injection! WHY am I saying this? We are wasting money on carreer criminals, and they will endager lives of everyone anyway. Get rid of these trash people!

Posted by Predator on 2008-03-16 14:02:49

Well your opinion is a good and valid one Kameleon.

I think the only problem is, what if you get the wrong person? If you have the death penalty, at some point you will execute someone innocent. You will probably get it right the first time, the second time, the twentieth time, but if you keep on doing it, you will eventually execute someone who did not do it.

Here in England, we had a couple of high-profile cases a couple of decades ago, known as the Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six. In each case, a group of people were jailed for life. If we had had the death penalty then, they would surely have been executed, as they were found guilty of a terrorist crime. But here's the twist - about fifteen years later, they were set free and declared innocent!! Today, in law, they are innocent men. Well obviously, if you imprison someone, you can always set them free if they are found innocent, but if you execute them, you cannot bring them back to life! (obviously)

Another slight problem is the fact that some people are not educated, and therefore have not had their personality developed. Here in England, the number of people who cannot read or write is 1% of the population, but in prison, it is close to 50% of the population! If those people had been educated, maybe some of them would still have become criminals, but not so many. There are some high-IQ people in prison, but not too many. We need an education system which does not allow anyone to slip thru the net.

But of course, when all's said and done, if someone is an adult and has committed a wicked crime, I do not have a problem with them going to prison for a long long time. On the death penalty, as long as they really have done that crime, I am kind of neutral. Anyway your opinion is just as good as mine, so I encourage you to keep on giving it.

Posted by Kameleon on 2008-03-17 08:57:36

As I said... "PROVEN withOUT a shadow of a doupt". EXECUTE 'um! This "revolving door" criminal justice system here in America HAS TO STOP! If a person is caught doing the same crime over and over again, and jail and rehab isn't doing anything? What else can be done? ALL FREE living people are put at stake for his/her repeat offenses! To rob, rape, steal for their drug addiction, kill again, and again. This HAS to stop! In America, especially my home state, prisons are over crouded. They ship prisoners off to another jail over seas! That is a hint! And at what cost? $$$ Isn't execution cheaper?

OK. I READ that INNOCENT people were jailed MANY years behind bars! There ARE errrors in our criminal justice system. And arrogant lawers and their channel minded ways to try and PROVE their criminal client is INNOCENT! And they get set free! It is said that a criminal always go back to the scene of a crime. I heard a Preacher saying that "A dog will go back to his vomit, and a clean pig will go back and roll in the mud". That sound so true to criminals, doesn't it?

And to all the human rights avocate people who says that executing people is INHUMANE! What about the inhumane things a criminal does over and over when he is free out of jail, to kill, rape, and harm old people?! These are the ones who should be executed!

OK. YES! I AGREE criminals have rights too! BUT! BUT! What about the rights of the people they rob, steal, rape, injured, beaten-up badly... etc? They should have MORE rights than the BASTARDS! I say it again. IF a person IS PROVEN withOUT a shadow of a doupt, in the eyes of God, to be guilty of a heinous crime such as killing another human, repeat offenses more than three times, a hopeless drug addict, and so forth..... EXECUTE them! Don't waste our tax dollars!

Posted by bob76 on 2008-03-17 11:38:07

IF a person IS PROVEN withOUT a shadow of a doupt, in the eyes of God, to be guilty of a heinous crime

And how do you prove that, Kameleon? Ask God? The fact is that juries have convicted people "beyond reasonable doubt" who have later been proved to be innocent, e.g. with DNA evidence. Juries are fallible and that's why we shouldn't impose irrevocable penalties such as the death penalty or physical castration. The penalty for first degree murder should be life without parole but with the possibility of the conviction being reversed in light of new evidence showing that the defendant was innocent.

Bob

Posted by Thomas Cromwell Earl of Essex on 2008-03-26 14:43:41

How about if he's caught on camera butchering a dozen nuns. Then he confesses everything at the police station in the presence of his lawyer. Then he gets up at the trial and says, YES I KILLED 30 NUNS BECAUSE A JOHN LENNON RECORD TOLD ME TO

I would think that qualifies as proven without a shadow of a doubt.