Religion

I just thought I would briefly return to pass on some very relevant information that I have come across in regards to the assertion that Hitler was a Christian;

I have been reading Hitler’s Pope by John Cornwell and published by Penguin Books. On page 105 you will find the following passage.
Hitler, in fact, had two views on the churches-public and private…. Privately, the following month, he vowed to completely “eradicate” Christianity from Germany. “You are either a Christian or a German,” he said. “You can’t be both.” In the mean time he was bent on careful manipulation of the power of the churches to his own ends.

Cornwell clearly demonstrates that Hitler’s whole approach to Christianity was merely tactical and used religious groups as mere pawns; “Hitler characterized the Catholic Church as “an immense technical apparatus” which “dwarfs” the National Socialist Party.”
It is plain to the reader that the reason that the Vatican was so quiet in regards to the persecution of all religious groups, Jew Protestant and Catholic, is because of the political position that Hitler had forced the Vatican into. Hitler literally had the Vatican by the balls. The title of the book is quite self explanatory; the Pope was indeed Hitler’s puppet.

Any comment that Hitler was a devout Catholic (as has been asserted in this discussion) is based on ignorant atheist propaganda. Hitler not only persecuted Jews, but was also hostile to Christians of every denomination, not even the clergy were spared. There are numerous instances of Christians and clergymen being severely beaten and many killed.

As I stated at the start of this discussion, any comment by Hitler that suggested that he was a Christian was mere tactical bluff, he just wanted to keep the population behind him, and at one stage Catholics made up 60% of the German population, one can easily imagine that the majority of the other 40% were Protestant. With these figures in mind one can see why Hitler indeed had public and private views on Christianity, had the German population known Hitler’s real views he would have lost power real damn quick!

I have only hit the tip of the iceberg here, once you have read “Hitler’s Pope” you will get a much fuller picture of Hitler, Christianity and the vast schism between the two.
Btw, I don't intend starting a discussion here I just thought I would pass on what I have read.

I don't believe anyone said that Hitler was a devout catholic, but that he clearly USED his catholicism and the church to further his political ends. Religion has been used throughout history for political advantage. This is what has occurred during the Bush administration over the last 8 years and why we have the 1st amendment separating church and state. Even with the protection of the 1st amendment we have to continue to be defensive of evangelical groups (mainly) who never rest in their mandate to impose religion in schools and government policy. The lunatic Mike Hucakbee has stated that he would favor revision of the constitution to make it more "Christian" ("God" help us).

Regarding John Cornwell, his objectivity has been widely criticized (see Wikipedia and Amazon book reviews). He moderated his views later, somewhat: "Five years after the publication of Hitler's Pope, .......: "I would now argue, in the light of the debates and evidence following Hitler's Pope, that Pius XII had so little scope of action that it is impossible to judge the motives for his silence during the war, while Rome was under the heel of Mussolini and later occupied by Germany.""

Quoting John Cornwall to prove that Hitler wasn't a catholic is like quoting the bible to prove that god exists or Enid Blyton to prove that Noddy exists

Noddy is so utterly cool, he HAS to exist!!!!

Well Enid Blyton said he did - in Toytown